it is corroding the connection between governments and people. a lot of the money and workers say it does not work. forget for all the talk we hear about education, $1.3 billion helps to clean up turkey and improve things and iceland. this is where the money is going. they do not know what to do with the money. a lot of consultants are getting rich on the back of this. >> no development aid goes to iceland. that money is about exception to the european union. that is the kind of misunderstanding. it does not come out of the aid budget. but a fight in -- >> 500 million last year paid consultants. many of them grow straight into the pockets of the people who run them. >> absolutely right. she looks at exactly where the money goes. it does worry us. absolutely. these are big challenges. we need experts, we need people who have dealt with these problems before to bring to bear. some of them will be consultants. is there money being spent that could be spent in other ways? >> is an inconvenient it is going to do more harm than good? there must be bett